fengzhou85 发表于 2012-7-3 22:10:09

平面应力状态下的塑性应变表达式

请问附件中平面应力状态下的塑性应变求解是否正确,谢谢


zytsang 发表于 2012-7-4 12:18:07

好像有点问题,在平面应变状态可以设\Delta \varepsilon _{33}^p=0,但是在平面应力状态中是\Delta \varepsilon _{33}^p\neq 0的

tonnyw 发表于 2012-7-4 12:28:30

zytsang 发表于 2012-7-4 12:18 static/image/common/back.gif
好像有点问题,在平面应变状态可以设,但是在平面应力状态中是的

This assumption may be problematic. For plane strain case, the normal plastic strain component is not zero.

Since the volume strain due to from plastic strain is zero, we know that the summation of Delta epsilon_11 + Delta epsilon_22 = - Delta epsilon_33.

fengzhou85 发表于 2012-7-4 14:54:04

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(感谢版主zytsang ,tonnyw的回复)

那如果在编写平面应力状态下的有限元程序(如:umat)时,是否可以处理为塑性应变还是采用塑性应变率给出,只是需要改变刚度张量?

hillyuan 发表于 2012-7-4 16:04:37

fengzhou85 发表于 2012-7-4 14:54 static/image/common/back.gif
(感谢版主zytsang ,tonnyw的回复)

那如果在编写平面应力状态下的有限元程序 ...

1. Your equation wrong.
2. You need also modify the stress update algorithm.

rock.li 发表于 2012-7-4 17:06:57

本帖最后由 rock.li 于 2012-7-5 10:35 编辑

我的看法:
1. 由平面应变概念,可得出zytsang 已经说过的平面应变中3向塑性应变是为零的,但球量塑性体积应变增量不为零。

2. 塑性流动因子是关键,流动因子求出后再根据应力状态(平面应力等)可求出塑性体积应变等各量。

3. 对于(实际物理模型即:薄板)平面应力,因其3方向应力一直为零,故3向应力其对加载势函数导数为零,可得:3向没有塑性应变,但有弹性应变(其遵循弹性胡克定律)。至此,塑性体应变即可求出。

fengzhou85 发表于 2012-7-4 17:15:11

hillyuan 发表于 2012-7-4 16:04 static/image/common/back.gif
1. Your equation wrong.
2. You need also modify the stress update algorithm.

请教一下公式哪里有错?应力更新应该是什么样的?非常感谢

hillyuan 发表于 2012-7-5 10:33:18

本帖最后由 hillyuan 于 2012-7-5 11:17 编辑

rock.li 发表于 2012-7-5 10:12 static/image/common/back.gif
1. 请详细解释一下

2.(是否该注意下:不是讨论一般金属材料的塑性应变,而是塑性体应变,请问hilyy ...

Well. E.g.

For your point 1, pls refer to #3, tommy's anwser

For your point 3, 故3向应力其对加载势函数导数 => wrong! 加载势函数 is function of deviate stress, not stress.

hillyuan 发表于 2012-7-5 09:21:10

fengzhou85 发表于 2012-7-4 17:15 static/image/common/back.gif
请教一下公式哪里有错?应力更新应该是什么样的?非常感谢

1 About how to obtain elastoplastic constituive equation
   A straight forward method is that
*Write down 3D elastoplastic constituive matrix (6*6)
*Condense this equation using plane stress condition s33, s13, s23=0. You may get a 3*3 constituive matrix for plane stress probems.

2. About how to update stress
* You cannot get both strain33 or plastic strain 33 directly. All those could be obtained from condition s33, s13, s23=0.

hillyuan 发表于 2012-7-5 09:23:03

rock.li 发表于 2012-7-4 17:06 static/image/common/back.gif
我的看法:
1. 由平面应变概念,可得出zytsang 已经说过的平面应变中3向塑性应变是为零的,但球量塑性体积 ...

Some basic concepts wrong!

hillyuan 发表于 2012-7-5 09:29:07

本帖最后由 hillyuan 于 2012-7-5 09:52 编辑

fengzhou85 发表于 2012-7-4 17:15 static/image/common/back.gif
请教一下公式哪里有错?应力更新应该是什么样的?非常感谢

It seems difficult for you to derive the right equations yourself, Pls refer to

Neto, Petric & Owen: Computational Method for plasticity, Wiley 2008

An really excellent book which provides both theoretic and implentation details on your problem.

Best reagrds.

rock.li 发表于 2012-7-5 10:12:00

本帖最后由 rock.li 于 2012-7-5 11:25 编辑

hillyuan 发表于 2012-7-5 09:23 http://forum.simwe.com/static/image/common/back.gif
Some basic concepts wrong!

请详细解释一下 :)

rock.li 发表于 2012-7-5 10:38:20

本帖最后由 rock.li 于 2012-7-5 11:41 编辑

hillyuan 发表于 2012-7-5 10:33 http://forum.simwe.com/static/image/common/back.gif
Well. E.g.

For your point 1, pls refer to #3, tommy's anwser


对于加载势函数,若考虑塑性体应变,则其不仅仅是偏量的函数,静水压也影响屈服,势函数应该考虑静水压P。


rock.li 发表于 2012-7-13 11:10:54

(1)平面应变部分已经找到答案,考虑结果和书上的一致。
(2)平面应力,我思考的结果是:对于岩土类材料3向存在塑性变形。
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