准备读力学的博士，各位老大给点建议。

yymaverick

准备读力学的博士，各位老大能不能对国内各学校和科研所的导师和情况作个介绍。

sh_lin30

觉得，还是去北大比较好
要不，去大工，或者科大（合肥）
可有的选择，还有中科院

sch

别来中科院力学所，毕业难啦。

yymaverick

多谢两位。能不能给一些导师和研究方向的介绍？
个人觉得找一个好老板和一个好的方向很重要，毕业难就难点吧，能学点东西就行。

kongdong

原帖由 sch 于 2007-1-4 00:27 发表
别来中科院力学所，毕业难啦。

晕！让别人先说了。
博士嘛，联系好导师，还是很把握滴。如果在国内的话，还是清华好些。

benjackxu

原帖由 sch 于 2007-1-4 00:27 发表
别来中科院力学所，毕业难啦。

那难不也没难道你出站吗。

yaooay

有多难，一般读几年？具体说说吧。

原帖由 sch 于 2007-1-4 00:27 发表
别来中科院力学所，毕业难啦。

tonnyw

I assume you have master or bachelor degree in mechanics. So why not use your skills and knowledge to study biophysics, cellular physics, or nano materials? Once you are done, you are guaranteed a good prospect.

FreddyMusic

原帖由 tonnyw 于 2007/1/5 05:49 发表
I assume you have master or bachelor degree in mechanics. So why not use your skills and knowledge to study biophysics, cellular physics, or nano materials? Once you are done, you are guaranteed a  ...

tonnyw,

I don't think there are so many chance and position for new prospect in China at the moment.
It's quite different with state. Yes "Once It is success." But how about risk ?
how about life and the patient ?

Indeed, That is smart decision to find, locate and make, what haven't happen or haven't been made.

Eg. Solar Energy in China , He is a one of the richest man in China now.
5 years before all his friends and employee leave him away for no salary within 3 - 6 months.
http://www.suntech-power.cn/index.asp

tonnyw

First yymaverick does not care too much about how long the Ph.D. will take. He wants to learn something.

Traditional mechanics are very old stuff. People who used to be in the area of mechanics are not shifting to the new areas. In my opinion, to get Ph.D. in mechanics is really risky. Those people who are doing research in biophysics, celluar physics, or molecular dynamics lack of background in mechanics. But for yymaverick, mechanics is his advantage. He knows the theories of mechanics and modelling.

He may find an advisor not good in this area. But it is okay. He can read the papers in this area and communicate with those guys in this areas. He can even self-study some of the related courses by browsing the MIT opencourse.

I would say there is no risk at all. Just like you take TOEFL, you may not go abroad. But your English is improved.

As long as yymaverick reads all the papers in one of these areas, categorize, and synthesize them, it is already good enough. Not mention he can do something new.

Your comments are welcome.

FreddyMusic

A Ph.D. suppose to be a little bit more than just learn something.
yymaverick is probably thinking about his future and career.
However, In my opinion, Job selection and R&D direction is quite individal things.

which is no more than what we can help as a suggestion in a forum.
http://www.simwe.com/forum/thread-752945-1-1.html

Half years before I modified the forum name. FEA medicine -> Chemical Biology and medicine.
Now it appears to be my personal fantasy. Too few people specialized for that in Simwe or in Chinese technology circle.
The struggle for a cross-over between mechncial and Biology would be awful pain.

tonnyw
One question have ever try with MIT open course ? Or any available experience ?
I browse once, only some translated PPT hang there. I don't think high education would be so easy.

tonnyw

I found the open course is pretty good. Did you try this one: http://ocw.mit.edu/index.html?

When I made suggestion, I also consider his future and career too. The mentioned areas are hot subjects of the century. There are not many people doing research on these stuff from the perspective of mechanics. He doesn't need to read a lot papers. Any small contribution is worth a dissertation. If you have solid background in mechanics, it is easy to produce new results. I just don't see why it is painful.

FreddyMusic

OKey tonnyw you win. go sleep.

tonnyw

I found the open course is pretty good. Did you try this one: http://ocw.mit.edu/index.html?

When I made suggestion, I also consider his future and career too. The mentioned areas are hot subjects of the century. There are not many people doing research on these stuff from the perspective of mechanics. He doesn't need to read a lot papers. Any small contribution is worth a dissertation. If you have solid background in mechanics, it is easy to produce new results. I just don't see why it is painful.

yymaverick

感谢各位老大如此热烈的讨论。
的确，具有扎实的数学力学基础，再找一个相对较新的工科研究领域比较容易出成果，对个人的发展很有好处。
我本身并非力学出身，硕士是做人工冻土方面的，毕业后留校工作，也主要从事人工冻土方面的研究工作。几年的研究工作使我感受到自身力学功底的薄弱(虽然我自己，包括导师认为我的力学基础还是不错的，但毕竟不是力学出身)，感觉有必要补一补。很幸运，毕业后我加入了一个气氛不错、作风踏实的科研团队(相对目前国内的气氛算是不错了)。现在老板建议我到外校读力学博士，对个人，对团队的发展都有益处，而我本人对力学也比较有兴趣。苦于自己对目前力学这个圈子并不熟悉，因此才发这个帖子向各位老大求救。还请各位老大不吝赐教呀。

kongdong

TO tonnyw，

本科我是力学滴，现在读cell mechanics的博士（cell adhesion），虽然这方面算是生物力学的前沿，可自己课题组内做的还是有些落后，没有试验条件，现在就我一个人adhesion，看看这，看看那，主要是model的上一些东西，迷茫的很啊。

tonnyw

Here is my wild imagination which may be nonsense:
If somebody already has the model, could you try to see if you can come out a different way to solve it? Could you introduce some error estimation in mechanics to your area?
If the other guys use deterministic model, could you introduce stochastic idea to your model?

What I mean is that you can modify/improve some existing models. That will be good enough.

kongdong

Yeah, I'm sure you're a colleague in Mech. And, you know or understand current situation deeply. We use our mechanics knowledge, to improve the determinstic and linear model of cell mechanics, for example the receptor - ligand bonds are modeled as linear springs, but they have stochastic nature and nonlinear mechanical stiffness.
   What I do in future, is to relate what we mechanicions have with what biologists want. To read more paper, and to do think more creatively, ......

kongdong

And, there're some famous Chinese scientists in the background of mechanics, making good jops and publishing papers on Science or Nature or PNAS. For example, Gang Bao, Huajian Gao, Cheng Zhu, Ning Wang, and so on.

jianghaibo

彼此了，